Network Working Group S. Moonesamy Internet-Draft Updates: 7437 (if approved) J. Klensin Intended status: Best Current Practice March 23, 2019 Expires: September 24, 2019 Revision of the Recall Initiation Model draft-moonesamy-recall-rev-00 Abstract The procedures for initiating a recall specified in RFC 7437 restrict signatories to those who are "nomcom qualified". This document suggests those limitations were unanticipated and undesirable side- effects and proposes to remove them. It also proposes that remote participants should be allowed to seek redress through the procedures and decreases the number of signatories required for a recall petition. This document is intended to update RFC 7437. Status of This Memo This Internet-Draft is submitted in full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79. Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF). Note that other groups may also distribute working documents as Internet-Drafts. 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Code Components extracted from this document must include Simplified BSD License text as described in Section 4.e of the Trust Legal Provisions and are provided without warranty as described in the Simplified BSD License. Table of Contents 1. Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 2. Rationale . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 2.1. Eligibility of IAB and IESG Members and other Nomcom Appointees . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 2.2. Eligibility of Remote Participants . . . . . . . . . . . 3 2.3. Number of Signatures Required . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 3. Recall petition . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 4. Acknowledgements . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 5. IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 6. Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 7. References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 7.1. Normative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 7.2. Informative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 Appendix A. Historical Note . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 Appendix B. Change Log . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 B.1. Changes from draft-klensin-recall-rev-00 (2005-11-11) to draft-moonesamy-recall-rev-00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 Authors' Addresses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 1. Introduction [RFC7437] defines the procedures for a Member Recall. The first step of those procedures is to request a Member Recall by signed petition. This document suggests that making IAB and IESG members ineligible to initiate recalls was an undesirable side-effect and proposes to remove it. It also proposes to address the unfairness to which remote participants are subject by allowing them to be signatories of a recall petition. Section 2 discusses some of the issues affecting that step and provides the rationale. The updated text is in Section 3. 2. Rationale 2.1. Eligibility of IAB and IESG Members and other Nomcom Appointees The procedures for initiating a recall specified in [RFC7437] restrict signatories to those who are "nomcom qualified". Perhaps inadvertently, this prohibits members of the IESG and IAB from initiating these procedures. This is probably not in the best interests of the community: if there is a problem within the IESG or Moonesamy & Klensin Expires September 24, 2019 [Page 2] Internet-Draft Recall Revision March 2019 IAB, other members of those bodies are likely to be aware of it before the IETF community. Conversely, members of a sitting nomcom, since they are, by definition, nomcom-eligible, are now permitted to initiate recalls. For them to do so appears to be a singularly poor idea, especially in principle. The nomcom should not be in a position to lead in determining which positions are open, nor should its members be in a position to initiate removal of someone whom they hope to replace. In addition, any recall action initiated by sitting nomcom members, especially if they presume to act on behalf of the community, would inevitably raise suspicions that confidentiality had been compromised. Some of the IETF Trustees [RFC4371] and IETF LLC Directors are appointed by NomCom. The procedures in [RFC7437] for a "recall petition" specifies "any sitting" member instead of the members who were appointed by Nomcom. There is a requirement to include a justification for a "recall petition". There is also a requirement for the member being recalled to be given an opportunity to present a written statement and consult with third parties. There is an assumption that those requirements are adequate for due process. As such, Section 3 does not distinguish between NomCom appointees and other appointing bodies. 2.2. Eligibility of Remote Participants In 2017, the IESG set a requirement for the registration of remote participants at IETF meetings. However, the procedures exclude those IETF participants from making a request for a Member Recall by signed petition. According to [RFC3777], "Volunteers are expected to be familiar with the IETF processes and procedures, which are readily learned by active participation in a working group and especially by serving as a document editor or working group chair." There is also a "no more than two signatories may have the same primary affiliation" restriction. Restricting signatories to those who are "nomcom qualified" disenfranchises active remote participants who reside in emerging countries as they lack the extensive travel resources required to seek redress. The "nomcom qualified" requirement for a recall petition is contrary to the spirit and one of the goals of the Internet Standards Process [RFC2026] about procedures which are intended to be fair. Moonesamy & Klensin Expires September 24, 2019 [Page 3] Internet-Draft Recall Revision March 2019 2.3. Number of Signatures Required [RFC7437] requires at least 20 signatories for a recall petition with no more than two of the signatories having the same primary affiliation. That sets a very high barrier for a recall petition even though the recall petition requires a, justification, an investigation by a Recall Committee and a 3/4 majority of the members of the Recall Committee who vote on the recall decision. This document also proposes to decrease the number of signatures required to avoid making it impractical to invoke the first step of the recall procedures. 3. Recall petition The first paragraph of Section 7.1 of [RFC7437] is replaced by the following: At any time, at least 10 members of the IETF community, may request by signed petition (email is acceptable) to the Internet Society President the recall of any sitting IAB or IESG member, IETF Trustee or IETF LLC Director. All signatories must have registered to attend and have participated physically or remotely at least three out of the previous five IETF meetings. The last sentence in the fourth paragraph of Section 7.1 of [RFC7437] is replaced by the following: A valid petition must be signed by qualified signatories as specified in this section. 4. Acknowledgements The authors would like to thank Adrian Farrel for some of the text in Section 3. and Brian Carpenter and Spencer Dawkins for several discussions and comments that helped stimulate this draft. 5. IANA Considerations This document does not require any IANA actions, 6. Security Considerations This document discusses IETF procedures. It raises no security issues for the Internet. The risks of permitting IESG or IAB members, or remote participants from abusing process by initiating a recall seem minimal: they remain Moonesamy & Klensin Expires September 24, 2019 [Page 4] Internet-Draft Recall Revision March 2019 ineligible to be members of the recall committee itself and the community would presumably swiftly oppose such abuse. 7. References 7.1. Normative References [RFC7437] Kucherawy, M., Ed., "IAB, IESG, and IAOC Selection, Confirmation, and Recall Process: Operation of the Nominating and Recall Committees", BCP 10, RFC 7437, DOI 10.17487/RFC7437, January 2015, . 7.2. Informative References [RFC2026] Bradner, S., "The Internet Standards Process -- Revision 3", BCP 9, RFC 2026, DOI 10.17487/RFC2026, October 1996, . [RFC3777] Galvin, J., Ed., "IAB and IESG Selection, Confirmation, and Recall Process: Operation of the Nominating and Recall Committees", RFC 3777, DOI 10.17487/RFC3777, June 2004, . [RFC4371] Carpenter, B., Ed. and L. Lynch, Ed., "BCP 101 Update for IPR Trust", BCP 101, RFC 4371, DOI 10.17487/RFC4371, January 2006, . Appendix A. Historical Note RFC Editor: Please remove this appendix before publication. The original recall procedure, as specified in RFC 2027, allowed a single person, without any restrictions, to petition the Internet Society President and initiate a recall any sitting IAB or IESG member. That model was continued with successor documents through RFC 2727. Because of concerns about the possibilities of frivolous recall attempts and about what would effectively be denial of service attacks on the IETF's ability to get work done, RFC 3777 increased that to 20 signatories and introduced qualifications for the signatories that were expressed as "nomcom eligibility". Appendix B. Change Log RFC Editor: Please remove this appendix before publication. Moonesamy & Klensin Expires September 24, 2019 [Page 5] Internet-Draft Recall Revision March 2019 B.1. Changes from draft-klensin-recall-rev-00 (2005-11-11) to draft- moonesamy-recall-rev-00 o Some discussion on the IETF list in 2005, and some followup discussion offline, led to the conclusion that, just as IAB and IESG members (and probably other Nomcom appointees) should allowed to initiated recalls, sitting Nomcom members should not be permitted to do so. New words and rationale have been added to that effect. o Changed update target from RFC 3777 to 7437. Authors' Addresses Subramanian Moonesamy 76, Ylang Ylang Avenue Quatre Bornes Mauritius Email: sm+ietf@elandsys.com John C. Klensin 1770 Massachusetts Ave, Suite 322 Cambridge, MA 02140 USA Email: john-ietf@jck.com Moonesamy & Klensin Expires September 24, 2019 [Page 6]